Comments on: YouTube: racism and homophobia are OK http://www.thebadrash.com/2007/03/14/youtube-racism-and-homophobia-are-ok/ A blog from Barcelona, Catalonia, covering politics, culture, society and more Sun, 05 Feb 2012 12:18:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Candidehttp://www.thebadrash.com/2007/03/14/youtube-racism-and-homophobia-are-ok/#comment-110546 Candide Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:13:33 +0000 http://thebadrash.com/?p=653#comment-110546 Oups, Sure it counts as tacit approval as long as nothing else is established. Oups, Sure it counts as tacit approval as long as nothing else is established.

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]]> By: Candidehttp://www.thebadrash.com/2007/03/14/youtube-racism-and-homophobia-are-ok/#comment-110545 Candide Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:12:01 +0000 http://thebadrash.com/?p=653#comment-110545 You are not contradicting me. May the man claim it. Until then the footage is out there. You are not contradicting me. May the man claim it. Until then the footage is out there.

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]]> By: Hernanhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2007/03/14/youtube-racism-and-homophobia-are-ok/#comment-110540 Hernan Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:18:11 +0000 http://thebadrash.com/?p=653#comment-110540 I guess you are the one that should read the Law. The right to self image can be claimed anytime during the lifetime, not necessary must be claimed during the act of taking your image and talking to the guy that holds the camera doesn't count as approval to distribute his image. I guess you are the one that should read the Law. The right to self image can be claimed anytime during the lifetime, not necessary must be claimed during the act of taking your image and talking to the guy that holds the camera doesn't count as approval to distribute his image.

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]]> By: Candidehttp://www.thebadrash.com/2007/03/14/youtube-racism-and-homophobia-are-ok/#comment-110537 Candide Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:06:58 +0000 http://thebadrash.com/?p=653#comment-110537 Read the law. Then talk. The guy filmed does not claim his droit à l'image. Instead, he talks straight to the camera. On a sidenote, I don't know if the guy is gay, but he sounds Italian. Read the law. Then talk. The guy filmed does not claim his droit à l'image. Instead, he talks straight to the camera.

On a sidenote, I don't know if the guy is gay, but he sounds Italian.

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]]> By: Hernanhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2007/03/14/youtube-racism-and-homophobia-are-ok/#comment-110497 Hernan Sat, 18 Jun 2011 12:27:36 +0000 http://thebadrash.com/?p=653#comment-110497 How you can say that a person being haressed is funny? That video was taken in Spain, and I don't know how the things work in your country but in Spain this kind of video is totally illegal. You can't make public footage of an anonymous person, specially to make fun of him/her without their approval. It's called 'Right to the self image'. How you can say that a person being haressed is funny? That video was taken in Spain, and I don't know how the things work in your country but in Spain this kind of video is totally illegal. You can't make public footage of an anonymous person, specially to make fun of him/her without their approval. It's called 'Right to the self image'.

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]]> By: Josehttp://www.thebadrash.com/2007/03/14/youtube-racism-and-homophobia-are-ok/#comment-70804 Jose Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:57:37 +0000 http://thebadrash.com/?p=653#comment-70804 We aren't all Us (portuguese here) citizens and we wont all have the same idea of what is censorship or what should be censored. In my country, because we had a long fascist dictatorship, the spreading of fascism is banned. In Germany for the same reasons the same happens. For those who say freedom of speech is more important I would say moderation is the base of all social behaviour. That youtube is serving as a rallying point and sorce of self justification thru the approval of others of behaviours that are damaging to society. the golden rule: do not do to others what you do not want done to yourself should be the key. Would a blue eyed person enjoy being descriminated against because of those blue eyes? Would a straight person enjoy being thrown out of a bar because they kissed their partner there when gay people are doing it openly in the same place? Woukld a man like being told he will be payed less for the same job that a woman does?

We aren't all Us (portuguese here) citizens and we wont all have the same idea of what is censorship or what should be censored. In my country, because we had a long fascist dictatorship, the spreading of fascism is banned. In Germany for the same reasons the same happens.

For those who say freedom of speech is more important I would say moderation is the base of all social behaviour. That youtube is serving as a rallying point and sorce of self justification thru the approval of others of behaviours that are damaging to society.

the golden rule: do not do to others what you do not want done to yourself should be the key. Would a blue eyed person enjoy being descriminated against because of those blue eyes? Would a straight person enjoy being thrown out of a bar because they kissed their partner there when gay people are doing it openly in the same place? Woukld a man like being told he will be payed less for the same job that a woman does?

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]]> By: Joeyhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2007/03/14/youtube-racism-and-homophobia-are-ok/#comment-70736 Joey Sat, 19 Sep 2009 08:05:05 +0000 http://thebadrash.com/?p=653#comment-70736 It's like if youtube isn't going to do anything about it, who's going to step in? I mean, at some point can't our U.S. government step in. Racist and homophobes shouldn't be allowed to spread their hate. Given the popularity of youtube I doubt they give a damn about any of their complaints which leads me to believe that maybe we should complain to our government. I get sick to my stomach at all the racism and homophobia that site is filled with It's like if youtube isn't going to do anything about it, who's going to step in? I mean, at some point can't our U.S. government step in. Racist and homophobes shouldn't be allowed to spread their hate. Given the popularity of youtube I doubt they give a damn about any of their complaints which leads me to believe that maybe we should complain to our government. I get sick to my stomach at all the racism and homophobia that site is filled with

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]]> By: Chameohttp://www.thebadrash.com/2007/03/14/youtube-racism-and-homophobia-are-ok/#comment-69938 Chameo Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:54:59 +0000 http://thebadrash.com/?p=653#comment-69938 I totally agree! For example my spanish teacher had made a video last year and posted it to youtube. Guess What? We got a user that said c.nt in a sentence for no reason. There are many examples of this and i think it's wrong. I do think freedom of speech is ok, but only if it makes a valid point, and yelling at a spanish teaching video is not neccesary. I totally agree! For example my spanish teacher had made a video last year and posted it to youtube. Guess What? We got a user that said c.nt in a sentence for no reason. There are many examples of this and i think it's wrong. I do think freedom of speech is ok, but only if it makes a valid point, and yelling at a spanish teaching video is not neccesary.

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]]> By: Billhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2007/03/14/youtube-racism-and-homophobia-are-ok/#comment-65433 Bill Fri, 29 May 2009 15:18:02 +0000 http://thebadrash.com/?p=653#comment-65433 I haven't seen many hateful videos on youtube, but that's probably because I don't look for them. What I have noticed on youtube is that practically every video's comment section, no matter what the video is about, is filled with random hate-filled comments. It astonishes me that some people's minds don't seem to extend beyond their hate. If there's a video on youtube about teddy bears or rainbows or unicorns, I'd wager there's a comment about "niggers" somewhere underneath it. That's the unfortunate downside to the freedom of the internet - give people a safe environment to express themselves and you'll hear the worst of them. And of course, the people with nothing of value to say are usually the most vocal. (But for every racist comment, how many more people didn't post a racist comment? My point is that it looks like there are more ignorant asses per capita than there actually are, because people who don't think that way aren't being represented.) Anyway, I'm all for freedom of speech, and youtube is a valid medium which should not be censored, but that right doesn't extend to the comment section. Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say whatever you want whenever you want to whomever you want. Example: The KKK is free to hold a rally where they preach to the public about all their racist ideas, but some random bigot shouting racial slurs at the mall is going to get arrested. Youtube should treat their comment section as if it were a mall, not a rally. Here's an idea: Comments are scanned before they're posted, and if any inappropriate words are detected the comment isn't posted. You don't get to revise it. It just discards the comment and forces you to write it again from scratch. This won't solve the problem, but it'll tone it down at least. I haven't seen many hateful videos on youtube, but that's probably because I don't look for them. What I have noticed on youtube is that practically every video's comment section, no matter what the video is about, is filled with random hate-filled comments. It astonishes me that some people's minds don't seem to extend beyond their hate. If there's a video on youtube about teddy bears or rainbows or unicorns, I'd wager there's a comment about "niggers" somewhere underneath it.

That's the unfortunate downside to the freedom of the internet – give people a safe environment to express themselves and you'll hear the worst of them. And of course, the people with nothing of value to say are usually the most vocal. (But for every racist comment, how many more people didn't post a racist comment? My point is that it looks like there are more ignorant asses per capita than there actually are, because people who don't think that way aren't being represented.)

Anyway, I'm all for freedom of speech, and youtube is a valid medium which should not be censored, but that right doesn't extend to the comment section. Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say whatever you want whenever you want to whomever you want. Example: The KKK is free to hold a rally where they preach to the public about all their racist ideas, but some random bigot shouting racial slurs at the mall is going to get arrested. Youtube should treat their comment section as if it were a mall, not a rally.

Here's an idea: Comments are scanned before they're posted, and if any inappropriate words are detected the comment isn't posted. You don't get to revise it. It just discards the comment and forces you to write it again from scratch. This won't solve the problem, but it'll tone it down at least.

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]]> By: Josehttp://www.thebadrash.com/2007/03/14/youtube-racism-and-homophobia-are-ok/#comment-62318 Jose Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:00:47 +0000 http://thebadrash.com/?p=653#comment-62318 Tottally agree with you. It is sickening to see this parade of hate spreading videos, channels and comments o youtube. But what can be done? I have tryed reporting and flagging but the videos and channels remain there. Tottally agree with you. It is sickening to see this parade of hate spreading videos, channels and comments o youtube. But what can be done? I have tryed reporting and flagging but the videos and channels remain there.

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]]> By: Rainbowhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2007/03/14/youtube-racism-and-homophobia-are-ok/#comment-39878 Rainbow Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:01:24 +0000 http://thebadrash.com/?p=653#comment-39878 YouTube needs a group of moderators to monitor all commentary for videos. All racist, sexist and homophobic commentary should be deleted and the person/people who posted it should be permanently banned and all their material should be removed. Even videos with racist titles and tags should be removed for violation of terms of use. The same deal applies to videos on both Google and MySpace. It's time to clean up these video-sharing websites, once and for all. YouTube needs a group of moderators to monitor all commentary for videos. All racist, sexist and homophobic commentary should be deleted and the person/people who posted it should be permanently banned and all their material should be removed. Even videos with racist titles and tags should be removed for violation of terms of use. The same deal applies to videos on both Google and MySpace. It's time to clean up these video-sharing websites, once and for all.

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]]> By: Demexhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2007/03/14/youtube-racism-and-homophobia-are-ok/#comment-34084 Demex Sun, 23 Nov 2008 20:26:10 +0000 http://thebadrash.com/?p=653#comment-34084 You must understand that the more they moderate the more people they will lose to other websites. They know this and as such take a lenient approach and leave the moderation up the community. This means that the majority rules and that racism, sexism, etc run rampant. They start blocking users that means less videos on youtube and more on another site meaning less visitors and a stronger competitor. You must understand that the more they moderate the more people they will lose to other websites. They know this and as such take a lenient approach and leave the moderation up the community. This means that the majority rules and that racism, sexism, etc run rampant. They start blocking users that means less videos on youtube and more on another site meaning less visitors and a stronger competitor.

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]]> By: Tomhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2007/03/14/youtube-racism-and-homophobia-are-ok/#comment-33710 Tom Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:31:00 +0000 http://thebadrash.com/?p=653#comment-33710 @ Ryan - thanks for your comments. I agree with what you've said: it will be difficult for Google to fix this broken system. But they should fix it, and they are Google. @ Ryan – thanks for your comments. I agree with what you've said: it will be difficult for Google to fix this broken system. But they should fix it, and they are Google.

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]]> By: Ryanhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2007/03/14/youtube-racism-and-homophobia-are-ok/#comment-33669 Ryan Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:07:42 +0000 http://thebadrash.com/?p=653#comment-33669 Another problem is that people can have multiple accounts, lie about their age and get access to inappropriate videos. And I do agree with you on this whole situation of moderating the situation but it is difficult for youtube, (they brought this upon themselves) because ANYONE in the WORLD who has access to youtube can upload a video, or comment with 'hate speech.'Also the ban of an account for this hate speech is quickly turned around by a fraud account. I'm afraid youtube must undergo a lot of work to solve this problem, maybe even "restart" the system in a way. But it'll take some convincing... Another problem is that people can have multiple accounts, lie about their age and get access to inappropriate videos. And I do agree with you on this whole situation of moderating the situation but it is difficult for youtube, (they brought this upon themselves) because ANYONE in the WORLD who has access to youtube can upload a video, or comment with 'hate speech.'Also the ban of an account for this hate speech is quickly turned around by a fraud account. I'm afraid youtube must undergo a lot of work to solve this problem, maybe even "restart" the system in a way. But it'll take some convincing…

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]]> By: Ryanhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2007/03/14/youtube-racism-and-homophobia-are-ok/#comment-32701 Ryan Sat, 08 Nov 2008 23:28:32 +0000 http://thebadrash.com/?p=653#comment-32701 I couldn't agree with you more. What is disheartening is that the situation has devolved further in light of recent events concerning the election of a black man for president. I've written a post about someone posting death threats against Barack Obama on youtube here: http://www.ryanbruce.org/2008/11/06/the-racist-death-mongering-citizenry-of-youtube/ I couldn't agree with you more. What is disheartening is that the situation has devolved further in light of recent events concerning the election of a black man for president. I've written a post about someone posting death threats against Barack Obama on youtube here:

http://www.ryanbruce.org/2008/11/06/the-racist-death-mongering-citizenry-of-youtube/

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