Comments on: Cancel the Spanish races now! http://www.thebadrash.com/2008/02/04/cancel-the-spanish-races-now/ A blog from Barcelona, Catalonia, covering politics, culture, society and more Sun, 05 Feb 2012 12:18:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: stuarthttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/02/04/cancel-the-spanish-races-now/#comment-32205 stuart Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:00:39 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/2008/02/04/cancel-the-spanish-races-now/#comment-32205 I think personally its not racism. Its JEALOUSY! Sorry, but its true. The "fans" involved from spain (I am not including all spanish - just the idiots involved here) You found out that Alonso doesnt measure up to hamilton, AND you found out that Alonso needed to cheat last year. I would be pretty upset too! Hamilton is a better man, and a better racer than Alonso. Race and colour has no place being used as an excuse. It's a poor advert for a country where countless foreigners no matter where they came from and no matter what colour they are - have always been made to feel welcome by the majority. I feel sorry for the innocent people who have had their nationality and their good reputation tarnished by a bunch of jealous arrogant mindless thugs I think personally its not racism. Its JEALOUSY!

Sorry, but its true. The "fans" involved from spain (I am not including all spanish – just the idiots involved here) You found out that Alonso doesnt measure up to hamilton, AND you found out that Alonso needed to cheat last year. I would be pretty upset too!

Hamilton is a better man, and a better racer than Alonso. Race and colour has no place being used as an excuse. It's a poor advert for a country where countless foreigners no matter where they came from and no matter what colour they are – have always been made to feel welcome by the majority.

I feel sorry for the innocent people who have had their nationality and their good reputation tarnished by a bunch of jealous arrogant mindless thugs

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]]> By: Tomhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/02/04/cancel-the-spanish-races-now/#comment-1737 Tom Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:33:57 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/2008/02/04/cancel-the-spanish-races-now/#comment-1737 Alonso is a dreadfully dull man. As to the violence, I'm not calling for it at all. I would say though that it's better to punch a racist to shut him up than to stand by and let him continue. There is, of course, a middle ground. Something like a blog, for example. Alonso is a dreadfully dull man. As to the violence, I'm not calling for it at all. I would say though that it's better to punch a racist to shut him up than to stand by and let him continue. There is, of course, a middle ground. Something like a blog, for example.

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]]> By: Antónhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/02/04/cancel-the-spanish-races-now/#comment-1565 Antón Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:44:25 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/2008/02/04/cancel-the-spanish-races-now/#comment-1565 I agree with most of what you say, but the attack to Alonso is not justified. Nice call for violence, too. I agree with most of what you say, but the attack to Alonso is not justified. Nice call for violence, too.

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]]> By: Bilingual Bloggerhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/02/04/cancel-the-spanish-races-now/#comment-1547 Bilingual Blogger Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:46:39 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/2008/02/04/cancel-the-spanish-races-now/#comment-1547 Denial is a national pasttime in Spain. The problem in Spain runs very deep. Canceling the races will be a good start but only a superficial measure. As you pointed out, many Spaniards see nothing wrong with the behavior that occurred in Barcelona, and until that changes, no permanent change is going to happen. Denial is a national pasttime in Spain. The problem in Spain runs very deep. Canceling the races will be a good start but only a superficial measure. As you pointed out, many Spaniards see nothing wrong with the behavior that occurred in Barcelona, and until that changes, no permanent change is going to happen.

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]]> By: Tomhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/02/04/cancel-the-spanish-races-now/#comment-1544 Tom Tue, 05 Feb 2008 07:50:14 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/2008/02/04/cancel-the-spanish-races-now/#comment-1544 Hi Jonathan. Yes, the non-racist fans will be punished but unfortunately, I think this necessary. In Spain, it has become all too normal to ignore the racist minority or even say that "it's not serious, it's just a bit of teasing, sport's always like that" - and people think this is enough. Stopping the races will teach all fans that one person shouting abuse is too many, and that we all have to stand up and condemn racism when we see it. Standing by isn't enough. Hi Jonathan.

Yes, the non-racist fans will be punished but unfortunately, I think this necessary. In Spain, it has become all too normal to ignore the racist minority or even say that "it's not serious, it's just a bit of teasing, sport's always like that" – and people think this is enough.

Stopping the races will teach all fans that one person shouting abuse is too many, and that we all have to stand up and condemn racism when we see it. Standing by isn't enough.

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]]> By: Racism in Spain - Hamilton and the F1 Disgrace - Notes from Spain: Travel, Living in Spain, Podcasts, Forum and Photoshttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/02/04/cancel-the-spanish-races-now/#comment-1520 Racism in Spain - Hamilton and the F1 Disgrace - Notes from Spain: Travel, Living in Spain, Podcasts, Forum and Photos Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:11:30 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/2008/02/04/cancel-the-spanish-races-now/#comment-1520 [...] has already been written about this in other blogs, our forum, and in the news in Spain and the UK, but I don’t think it can be given too much [...] [...] has already been written about this in other blogs, our forum, and in the news in Spain and the UK, but I don't think it can be given too much [...]

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]]> By: Jonathanhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/02/04/cancel-the-spanish-races-now/#comment-1519 Jonathan Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:29:15 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/2008/02/04/cancel-the-spanish-races-now/#comment-1519 Tom, that really is despicable. It seems that previous efforts to eradicate racism at Spanish sporting events have been unsuccessful, and black footballers can still expect monkey chants and bananas thrown at them. (Although, to be fair, the fines issued against the football clubs and senor aragones could have been considerably higher.) I agree, only by canceling the race will the public receive some sort of sanction for their behaviour because they'll miss out on the race. However, it might be fair to argue that non-racist fans are also punished by this. Perhaps the solution is to have stewards forcibly eject anyone responsible for racist behaviour, turn them over to the police, fine them big and ban them for life. But, what are the chances that this kind of serious action will actually be taken? Tom,

that really is despicable. It seems that previous efforts to eradicate racism at Spanish sporting events have been unsuccessful, and black footballers can still expect monkey chants and bananas thrown at them. (Although, to be fair, the fines issued against the football clubs and senor aragones could have been considerably higher.)

I agree, only by canceling the race will the public receive some sort of sanction for their behaviour because they'll miss out on the race. However, it might be fair to argue that non-racist fans are also punished by this. Perhaps the solution is to have stewards forcibly eject anyone responsible for racist behaviour, turn them over to the police, fine them big and ban them for life. But, what are the chances that this kind of serious action will actually be taken?

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