Comments on: Gaycelona versus Gayxample – does Graham Keeley ever know what he's talking about? http://www.thebadrash.com/2008/05/16/gaycelona-versus-gayxample-does-graham-keeley-ever-know-what-hes-talking-about/ A blog from Barcelona, Catalonia, covering politics, culture, society and more Sun, 05 Feb 2012 12:18:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Tomhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/05/16/gaycelona-versus-gayxample-does-graham-keeley-ever-know-what-hes-talking-about/#comment-27784 Tom Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:06:56 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=864#comment-27784 StarHound... I've been pondering this for 3 1/2 months now and I have finally decided that yes, it did add to the debate. Thanks. StarHound… I've been pondering this for 3 1/2 months now and I have finally decided that yes, it did add to the debate. Thanks.

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]]> By: StarHoundhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/05/16/gaycelona-versus-gayxample-does-graham-keeley-ever-know-what-hes-talking-about/#comment-8090 StarHound Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:27:54 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=864#comment-8090 'Barna' is pronounced the same as the Irish word 'Bearna' which means 'gap'. I hope that adds to the debate. 'Barna' is pronounced the same as the Irish word 'Bearna' which means 'gap'.

I hope that adds to the debate.

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]]> By: Anthonyhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/05/16/gaycelona-versus-gayxample-does-graham-keeley-ever-know-what-hes-talking-about/#comment-6257 Anthony Mon, 26 May 2008 23:37:37 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=864#comment-6257 ""Colonialism is dead" - try telling the Iraqis that." I wish it were alive and well in Iraq's case. It would not be the mess it is in now. ""Colonialism is dead" – try telling the Iraqis that."

I wish it were alive and well in Iraq's case. It would not be the mess it is in now.

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]]> By: Greyhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/05/16/gaycelona-versus-gayxample-does-graham-keeley-ever-know-what-hes-talking-about/#comment-6218 Grey Mon, 26 May 2008 19:10:18 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=864#comment-6218 'Colonialism is dead' is the silliest thing I've heard lately... 'Colonialism is dead' is the silliest thing I've heard lately…

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]]> By: Greyhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/05/16/gaycelona-versus-gayxample-does-graham-keeley-ever-know-what-hes-talking-about/#comment-6217 Grey Mon, 26 May 2008 19:08:39 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=864#comment-6217 Of course Tom, but I believe English is now more important and relevant for let's say Northern Celts (Ireland, Scotland, Wales...) than any other language. In fact, their original languages are almost about to disappear (except Welsh, perhaps) so you are Anglo-Saxon (not being an ethnic concept here but a concept concerning English-speaking nations) when it comes to your language identity. English is the mental structure you (or if not you, most of you) use to decide if Barna sounds cool or not. Of course Tom, but I believe English is now more important and relevant for let's say Northern Celts (Ireland, Scotland, Wales…) than any other language. In fact, their original languages are almost about to disappear (except Welsh, perhaps) so you are Anglo-Saxon (not being an ethnic concept here but a concept concerning English-speaking nations) when it comes to your language identity. English is the mental structure you (or if not you, most of you) use to decide if Barna sounds cool or not.

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]]> By: Tomhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/05/16/gaycelona-versus-gayxample-does-graham-keeley-ever-know-what-hes-talking-about/#comment-6216 Tom Mon, 26 May 2008 18:50:18 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=864#comment-6216 "Colonialism is dead" - try telling the Iraqis that. "Colonialism is dead" – try telling the Iraqis that.

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]]> By: Anthonyhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/05/16/gaycelona-versus-gayxample-does-graham-keeley-ever-know-what-hes-talking-about/#comment-6215 Anthony Mon, 26 May 2008 18:46:55 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=864#comment-6215 The Celts are a bit of a mythical tribe. As for claims on Barcelona....welcome to the XXIst century. If you have a claim on Barcelona, does that mean Madrid has a claim on the UK as a whole? Silly isn't it? Colonialism is dead. Thank F**ck for that! The Celts are a bit of a mythical tribe. As for claims on Barcelona….welcome to the XXIst century. If you have a claim on Barcelona, does that mean Madrid has a claim on the UK as a whole? Silly isn't it?

Colonialism is dead. Thank F**ck for that!

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]]> By: Tomhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/05/16/gaycelona-versus-gayxample-does-graham-keeley-ever-know-what-hes-talking-about/#comment-6185 Tom Mon, 26 May 2008 12:15:32 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=864#comment-6185 Well I think the Celts come from northern Spain too... in fact, we might have more claim on Barcelona than the Visigoths who have it now :-) Well I think the Celts come from northern Spain too… in fact, we might have more claim on Barcelona than the Visigoths who have it now :-)

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]]> By: Anthonyhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/05/16/gaycelona-versus-gayxample-does-graham-keeley-ever-know-what-hes-talking-about/#comment-6184 Anthony Mon, 26 May 2008 12:09:12 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=864#comment-6184 Wasn't there an article not long ago about how most of the population of the British Isles being originally from the Iberian peninsula? A book too... Wasn't there an article not long ago about how most of the population of the British Isles being originally from the Iberian peninsula?

A book too…

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]]> By: Tomhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/05/16/gaycelona-versus-gayxample-does-graham-keeley-ever-know-what-hes-talking-about/#comment-6182 Tom Mon, 26 May 2008 11:39:16 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=864#comment-6182 Grey - please don't chuck this 'Anglo-Saxon' nonsense around. The English are made up of more than one tribe. I'm English but I'm much more of a Celt than anything else. Grey – please don't chuck this 'Anglo-Saxon' nonsense around. The English are made up of more than one tribe. I'm English but I'm much more of a Celt than anything else.

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]]> By: Greyhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/05/16/gaycelona-versus-gayxample-does-graham-keeley-ever-know-what-hes-talking-about/#comment-5973 Grey Sat, 24 May 2008 20:39:41 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=864#comment-5973 The way Barna sounds to English-speaking people is pointless since Barcelona is not an Anglosaxon city :). The way Barna sounds to English-speaking people is pointless since Barcelona is not an Anglosaxon city :) .

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]]> By: trevorhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/05/16/gaycelona-versus-gayxample-does-graham-keeley-ever-know-what-hes-talking-about/#comment-5699 trevor Thu, 22 May 2008 15:25:46 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=864#comment-5699 My female relative says go with Gaycelona, since all the men she met there are either gay or live with their mum My female relative says go with Gaycelona, since all the men she met there are either gay or live with their mum

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]]> By: Tomhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/05/16/gaycelona-versus-gayxample-does-graham-keeley-ever-know-what-hes-talking-about/#comment-5657 Tom Thu, 22 May 2008 08:40:37 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=864#comment-5657 A controversial view, there, '69'. I don't think 'Barna' sounds shit at all... A controversial view, there, '69'. I don't think 'Barna' sounds shit at all…

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]]> By: GDP69http://www.thebadrash.com/2008/05/16/gaycelona-versus-gayxample-does-graham-keeley-ever-know-what-hes-talking-about/#comment-5580 GDP69 Wed, 21 May 2008 19:48:06 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=864#comment-5580 'Barna' does sound completely sh!t though 'Barna' does sound completely sh!t though

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]]> By: Greyhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/05/16/gaycelona-versus-gayxample-does-graham-keeley-ever-know-what-hes-talking-about/#comment-5445 Grey Tue, 20 May 2008 07:19:59 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=864#comment-5445 Oh no, I'm not so angry. All I'm trying to say here is English-speaking people should try to get the 'beauty' of other languages. It's not possible to get the word 'gayxample' with an Anglosaxon 'mentality'. It's like I was trying to appreciate strange English words with the same mental mechanisms I use for Catalan words. So, in this case, it would have been much better the author had written the original catalan concept explaining its origin and its pronunciation. Using a word that doesn't exist, that is not in usage just because it sounds 'cooler' or 'easier' to pronunce for English-speaking people is pathetic. I'd take it like they are considering I'm not able to get into other cultures, like I do when Spaniards or Catalans do the same thing with English concepts. Oh no, I'm not so angry. All I'm trying to say here is English-speaking people should try to get the 'beauty' of other languages. It's not possible to get the word 'gayxample' with an Anglosaxon 'mentality'. It's like I was trying to appreciate strange English words with the same mental mechanisms I use for Catalan words.

So, in this case, it would have been much better the author had written the original catalan concept explaining its origin and its pronunciation. Using a word that doesn't exist, that is not in usage just because it sounds 'cooler' or 'easier' to pronunce for English-speaking people is pathetic. I'd take it like they are considering I'm not able to get into other cultures, like I do when Spaniards or Catalans do the same thing with English concepts.

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