Comments on: Spanish football feeds the hungry & cures the sick http://www.thebadrash.com/2008/06/29/spanish-football-feeds-the-hungry-cures-the-sick/ A blog from Barcelona, Catalonia, covering politics, culture, society and more Sun, 05 Feb 2012 12:18:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Rabhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/06/29/spanish-football-feeds-the-hungry-cures-the-sick/#comment-14505 Rab Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:36:34 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=890#comment-14505 Let's define things properly shall we? Nobody that burns a Catalan flag is a Catalan Unionist but a Spanish Nationalist living in Catalonia. Let's define things properly shall we?

Nobody that burns a Catalan flag is a Catalan Unionist but a Spanish Nationalist living in Catalonia.

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]]> By: Davidhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/06/29/spanish-football-feeds-the-hungry-cures-the-sick/#comment-14323 David Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:30:37 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=890#comment-14323 Dunno about this self-styled netiquette, I suppose most people make their own up as they go along. If anything I'm always grateful for precise spellings, though, since gathering info can be a real pain at times. Anyway, I'm not a teacher, never have been, never will be, so this kind of occupational hazard's none of my concern, thankfully. Catalan Unionists very quiet? well, they certainly haven´t got their marching bands up and running yet, to parade through the likes of Gracia or Berga. Only time will tell. There's plenty of stuff up on youtube featuring notoriously unquiet Catalan Unionists putting Catalan flags to the torch in full view of the public. For some reason they seem to choose the main square of Reus for that kind of activity on a regular basis, the last time was a couple of nights ago, following the favourable outcome of a big away game. Dunno about this self-styled netiquette, I suppose most people make their own up as they go along. If anything I'm always grateful for precise spellings, though, since gathering info can be a real pain at times.

Anyway, I'm not a teacher, never have been, never will be, so this kind of occupational hazard's none of my concern, thankfully.

Catalan Unionists very quiet? well, they certainly haven´t got their marching bands up and running yet, to parade through the likes of Gracia or Berga. Only time will tell. There's plenty of stuff up on youtube featuring notoriously unquiet Catalan Unionists putting Catalan flags to the torch in full view of the public.

For some reason they seem to choose the main square of Reus for that kind of activity on a regular basis, the last time was a couple of nights ago, following the favourable outcome of a big away game.

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]]> By: boynamedsuehttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/06/29/spanish-football-feeds-the-hungry-cures-the-sick/#comment-14315 boynamedsue Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:16:12 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=890#comment-14315 See Oriol, you're not the only one who can scrape the bottom of the barrel. La Vangua is pro CiU if anything, CiU are not pro-spain. I wouldn't say the number of people who come out to celebrate a football victory is a better indicator of pro-independence sentiment than polls asking the question "Do you want Catalonia to be independent?", but hey, what do I know? See Oriol, you're not the only one who can scrape the bottom of the barrel.

La Vangua is pro CiU if anything, CiU are not pro-spain.

I wouldn't say the number of people who come out to celebrate a football victory is a better indicator of pro-independence sentiment than polls asking the question "Do you want Catalonia to be independent?", but hey, what do I know?

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]]> By: boynamedsuehttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/06/29/spanish-football-feeds-the-hungry-cures-the-sick/#comment-14313 boynamedsue Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:10:54 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=890#comment-14313 crrrrreeeeeeeeeeaaaaakkkkkkkkkkkk. crrrrreeeeeeeeeeaaaaakkkkkkkkkkkk.

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]]> By: Oriolhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/06/29/spanish-football-feeds-the-hungry-cures-the-sick/#comment-14290 Oriol Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:33:56 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=890#comment-14290 Only 10.000 celebrated in Barcelona, according to a very pro-spain source: http://www.lavanguardia.es/premium/publica/publica?COMPID=53491043765&ID_PAGINA=22088&ID_FORMATO=9&turbourl=false With such evidences, who needs polls? Only 10.000 celebrated in Barcelona, according to a very pro-spain source: http://www.lavanguardia.es/premium/publica/publica?COMPID=53491043765&ID_PAGINA=22088&ID_FORMATO=9&turbourl=false

With such evidences, who needs polls?

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]]> By: boynamedsuehttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/06/29/spanish-football-feeds-the-hungry-cures-the-sick/#comment-14289 boynamedsue Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:35:33 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=890#comment-14289 Correcting spelling is bad manners on the interweb I thought, but you are quite correct. I think you are building a bit of a straw man with the silent majority thing, Catalan Nationalists are very noisy, Catalan Unionists (for want of a better term) are very quiet, yet the polls say they are a majority. The silent majority thing is quite literal really. Correcting spelling is bad manners on the interweb I thought, but you are quite correct.

I think you are building a bit of a straw man with the silent majority thing, Catalan Nationalists are very noisy, Catalan Unionists (for want of a better term) are very quiet, yet the polls say they are a majority. The silent majority thing is quite literal really.

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]]> By: Davidhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/06/29/spanish-football-feeds-the-hungry-cures-the-sick/#comment-14145 David Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:19:40 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=890#comment-14145 I've had a look at above website as instructed. It's indeed full of childish, uninteresting and predictable nationalistic venom, from either side and in both Catalan and Spanish - both equally badly mangled, btw. My impression's that of teenage, brain-amputated nationalists spitting venom at each other for stupid reasons like(the Spaniards)invading the Catalans'own turf and (the Catalans)failing to support the Spanish team and thus committing high treason...just like the Scots want everyone else to win but England, big deal indeed! Everyone's indeed welcome to their own party. There have been a couple of nasty incidents, though. In Tortosa cars were stopped and shaken by fans until their occupants cried "viva españa" and a young guy was badly beaten up in Pl. España in BCN for refusing to join in the chanting. I suppose the current news blackout on the downside of the win will be lifted once the celebrations are over. What I don't undertand is how someone who fancies himself as an "anarchist" can come up with the idea of a "silent majority". I thought this was a notion used by totalitarian regimes in order to justify the lack of democratic procedures and thus acquire some degree of legitimacy. Please do correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the correct spelling of the emblematic fountain at the top of the Rambla is "Canaletes" I've had a look at above website as instructed. It's indeed full of childish, uninteresting and predictable nationalistic venom, from either side and in both Catalan and Spanish – both equally badly mangled, btw.

My impression's that of teenage, brain-amputated nationalists spitting venom at each other for stupid reasons like(the Spaniards)invading the Catalans'own turf and (the Catalans)failing to support the Spanish team and thus committing high treason…just like the Scots want everyone else to win but England, big deal indeed!

Everyone's indeed welcome to their own party. There have been a couple of nasty incidents, though. In Tortosa cars were stopped and shaken by fans until their occupants cried "viva españa" and a young guy was badly beaten up in Pl. España in BCN for refusing to join in the chanting. I suppose the current news blackout on the downside of the win will be lifted once the celebrations are over.

What I don't undertand is how someone who fancies himself as an "anarchist" can come up with the idea of a "silent majority". I thought this was a notion used by totalitarian regimes in order to justify the lack of democratic procedures and thus acquire some degree of legitimacy.

Please do correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the correct spelling of the emblematic fountain at the top of the Rambla is "Canaletes"

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]]> By: boynamedsuehttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/06/29/spanish-football-feeds-the-hungry-cures-the-sick/#comment-14130 boynamedsue Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:36:31 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=890#comment-14130 Keeley has missed the point by a cow's arse. The win seems to be very DIVISIVE within Catalonia. Have a look at Avui's website today, and you'll find that many nationalists are spitting venom at the "Espanyols" who had the temerity to celebrate the win at Canyaletes. They hate being reminded of the silent majority of Catalans who don't mind being Spanish. Keeley has missed the point by a cow's arse.

The win seems to be very DIVISIVE within Catalonia. Have a look at Avui's website today, and you'll find that many nationalists are spitting venom at the "Espanyols" who had the temerity to celebrate the win at Canyaletes.

They hate being reminded of the silent majority of Catalans who don't mind being Spanish.

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]]> By: Nickhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/06/29/spanish-football-feeds-the-hungry-cures-the-sick/#comment-14111 Nick Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:56:26 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=890#comment-14111 There was definitely scope for this kind of perspective on the game but that was way too long and hard to digest. I'm not sure if he mentioned either that surely part of the reason the Basque country are probably the least interested region is the simple fact that there were hardly any Basque players in the squad. There was definitely scope for this kind of perspective on the game but that was way too long and hard to digest. I'm not sure if he mentioned either that surely part of the reason the Basque country are probably the least interested region is the simple fact that there were hardly any Basque players in the squad.

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]]> By: kalebeul » Spanish football celebrations on Barcelona Ramblashttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/06/29/spanish-football-feeds-the-hungry-cures-the-sick/#comment-14106 kalebeul » Spanish football celebrations on Barcelona Ramblas Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:53:14 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=890#comment-14106 [...] of wrong ‘uns in Graham Keeley’s post (via The Expat Leper) over at the UK’s leading idiot shoutbox (eg Franco didn’t ban regional languages; the [...] [...] of wrong 'uns in Graham Keeley's post (via The Expat Leper) over at the UK's leading idiot shoutbox (eg Franco didn't ban regional languages; the [...]

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]]> By: Greyhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/06/29/spanish-football-feeds-the-hungry-cures-the-sick/#comment-13959 Grey Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:18:13 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=890#comment-13959 This is too much, Jesus Christ lol. This is too much, Jesus Christ lol.

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]]> By: Keefieboyhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/06/29/spanish-football-feeds-the-hungry-cures-the-sick/#comment-13958 Keefieboy Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:53:50 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=890#comment-13958 Yikes! Too many words. Way too many. Yikes! Too many words. Way too many.

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]]> By: StarHoundhttp://www.thebadrash.com/2008/06/29/spanish-football-feeds-the-hungry-cures-the-sick/#comment-13914 StarHound Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:49:12 +0000 http://www.thebadrash.com/?p=890#comment-13914 I nearly fell off my chair reading this utter toss this morning - I note that his editor gets a credit which must mean an awful lot of editing. 'The highest television audiences of the year in Catalonia and the Basque country are when Spain plays an important football match,' said Louis Maria Anson, writing in the Spanish daily El Mundo. 'The chattering of some nationalist leaders at these times merely shows how distant they are from popular feeling.' He read El Mundo for his research, never mind it's slight bias in this area, he did no more than read another newspaper and then filtered it through his rose or is that rosado, tinted spectacles. There is really lazy some rubbish in the Guardian these days...Keeley, Henry Mc Donald and a few very dull bloggers for starters. I nearly fell off my chair reading this utter toss this morning – I note that his editor gets a credit which must mean an awful lot of editing.

'The highest television audiences of the year in Catalonia and the Basque country are when Spain plays an important football match,' said Louis Maria Anson, writing in the Spanish daily El Mundo. 'The chattering of some nationalist leaders at these times merely shows how distant they are from popular feeling.'

He read El Mundo for his research, never mind it's slight bias in this area, he did no more than read another newspaper and then filtered it through his rose or is that rosado, tinted spectacles.

There is really lazy some rubbish in the Guardian these days…Keeley, Henry Mc Donald and a few very dull bloggers for starters.

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