Catalan fascists PxC: Immigrant kids want all the sweets
It wouldn't be a 'traditional' time of year without the Catalan fascist Plataforma Per Catalunya party making an absurd racist statement on Facebook. This year's Reis (Kings' day, in which Catalans celebrate the arrival of the wise men at the end of the Christmas season - the kings throw boiled sweets from their floats, always eagerly and boisterously collected by local kids of all ages) has seen an extra special bit of gibberish published, courtesy of one Jordi Casanova* of Tortosa.
In a post entitled "IMMIGRANT INVASION AT THE KINGS' PROCESSION IN TORTOSA" (his caps), Casanova observes how yet another tradition has been ruined by immigrants. He writes:
INDIGNANT over what I saw at the Kings' procession in Tortosa. A swarm ['eixam' - I think 'swarm' is best, but you could almost use 'plague'] of immigrant children - mainly moros [Moroccans - kind of like saying 'Pakis' for Pakistanis in England] - interrupted the collection of sweets thrown from the kings' floats to the point of putting at risk our children's physical safety due to the savagery and brutality they displayed while trying to get all the sweets. What - if it can be known [sic] - are these moros doing to our traditions?
(My apologies for a slightly dodgy translation).
What follows is a charming discussion between Casanova and some of his acolytes. Among the first comments:
Raquel Iseres: Gum sweets are normally made with animal gelatin, often from pigs. We need to spread the word about this so they realise they've been eating pork without knowing it.
Mayka Miras González: What a shame they didn't die from eating so many sweets, the scum.
Now, I know it's easy to point out the failings of fascist diatribe, or the inanity of Facebook comments. But seeing Mayka Miras González saying she wished some little kids were dead, makes me really angry.
Happy new year to you, too. Let's support smashing the PxC in 2012.

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*It is really a cruel twist of fate that a man named Casanova should be quite so... lacking when it comes to physical beauty. Kind of like Lord Adonis.
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Some questions… #1.5: What about France?
As part of my apparently ongoing series of Questions for a Catalan Independentist, this post poses a question that wasn't in my original post.
Actually, this is a topic I've been thinking about lots recently, thanks to the input of an uninterested friend who knows something about geopolitics in Europe. Indeed, it's one issue that I don't think I've ever seen answered by Catalan independentists. It comes down to a simple problem: would France ever allow an independent Catalan state to be declared on its border?
Before you start immediately by saying "I don't care, they'll just have to accept it", allow me to offer some thoughts. France is one of the two key powers in Europe. It's on the UN Security Council. It's a centre for international diplomacy. Isn't it likely that should France choose to block the establishment of a new state on its borders (and one which, let's face it, would likely have at least some parliamentarians dedicated to the restoration of Catalunya Nord to the Catalan state), is there anything Catalonia could really do? Not being recognised by Spain is of huge importance. Not being recognised by France might be difficult to overcome.
So the question is: What about France? Do you really think France would stand for what it might see as the first of several new states springing up on its borders? Doesn't this gravely affect the independence argument?
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Some questions for an opponent of Catalan independence
Following on from June's 'Some Questions for a Catalan Independentist' , here are some questions I'd like to pose to those of you who are opposed to the idea of Catalonia becoming independent. These have been harder to for me to formulate for one simple reason: in a debate such as this one, the onus is really on those proposing change (in this case, the independentists) to explain why the rest of us should go along with their proposal. That said, I do feel that there are some questions which do deserve to be asked of those who oppose independence. From my experience in the real world, their arguments against independence often seem to be the most fallacious of all.
- If a suitable majority supported it, why shouldn't Catalonia be independent?
- How would you describe your stance against Catalan nationalism?
- Are you aware of the independentists' historical claims? Do you think they are inaccurate, or irrelevant?
- Do you think its possible that your position is the result of political media campaigns against independence?
- Do you oppose the independence of all 'nation' states, or is your opposition selective?
- Even though you oppose it, do you feel any empathy for those who genuinely believe that their country isn't 'free' unless it's an independent state?
- What action would you take should Catalonia become independent?
- What action should Spain take to prevent Catalonia declaring independence?
- Do you think that Kosovo's independence from Serbia sets a legal precedent?
- Are there any conditions under which you'd accept Catalan independence (e.g. constitutional protection of Spanish speakers)?
- Should Catalonia become independent, would you insist that FC Barcelona be excluded from the LFP?
- Have you ever found yourself chuckling at the epithet 'Cataloonies' while strumming away to the old Iberian Notes blog? (You don't have to answer this one if you really don't want to).
And that's it for the moment. Let me know if you think I've missed out something really glaring. And do feel free to answer some or all of the questions for an independentist too.
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Some Questions for a Catalan Independentist
In just over a week, many Catalan towns will hold 'consultaions' about Catalan independence. These consultations (consultes) take the form of a mock referendum. They're not legally binding in any way, and voting in them is so open that even I can join in! The thing about these consultations is that they do make it feel (however superficially) like Catalonia is starting to seriously consider its status as part of Spain. The organisers and political groups involved are certainly keen to make it look like that, at any rate.
On this blog, I've been careful to avoid a categorical endorsement of Catalan independence for many reasons. So I decided to ask some open questions to anyone interested in answering them. And you don't have to be in favour of Catalan independence to take part: if you think you've got a point to make, make it. I plan to do something similar directed at opponents of independence over the next few days. Feel free to answer whichever of the questions you like.
Some questions:
- Why should Catalonia be independent?
- What exactly do you think will be gained if Catalonia becomes independent?
- What model do you see an independent Catalonia adopting? Some sort of republic? How would it be organised?
- Do you think that the current crisis is a good time to decide something like this? Why?
- What damage do you think this would do to Spain? Do you worry about that?
- Is an independent Catalonia an economically viable state?
- What should the process be in the result of a vote in favour of independence?
- What should be the status of Spanish citizens in Catalonia? Would dual citizenship be allowed?
- What about immigrants? Would they become citizens? What would the immigration policy be?
- Would you expect all the political parties in Catalonia to break ties with their Spanish equivalents?
- What would happen if the EU had trouble accepting Catalonia as a member?
- What would happen to Catalan government agencies aimed at trade and business? Would they be absorbed by embassies?
- Who would be the head of state? Would you deny Juan Carlos's claim to sovereignty?
- Would the Catalan constitution guarantee the right to receive state services in Castilian Spanish?
- How would you deal with people potentially wanting to leave for Spain proper?
- What flag would you have? Senyera or Estelada?
- What would happen to utilities like the phone/data system?
- What sort of rights would be included in the constitution anyway?
- How would you deal with other parts of the 'Catalan Countries'? Would you seek their absorption?
- How important would the status of FC Barcelona be? Do you think the Spanish league would still have them?
- Would you bother with armed forces? If so, how?
- What would happen if there was a Spanish boycott of independent Catalonia?
- What would happen if there was a Spanish military response?
- Can a constituent part of an EU and NATO member even declare independence?
- Would you demand that companies trading in Catalonia establish separate entities in Catalonia? How?
And that's enough for now. I know that I've asked a lot of questions. But these are just some of the questions that will be asked should Catalonia approach a genuine referendum.
So, what do you say?
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thabadMonth – top posts in the last 30 days
These are the five most popular posts on thebadrash this month... the Vagina Institute one is more down to odd Google searches than anything else, and the Nazi Pop Twins one was submitted by someone to StumbleUpon. The alternative poll was linked, as some may have guessed, to a comments thread on another Catalonia-based blog. Next week, I'll go into some more detail about how the Catalans are the most evil people in history and how their insistence on speaking Catalan is worse than the Holocaust. The people deserve to know the truth.
- thebadPoll - should everyone understand Catalan?
- Nazi Pop Twins Documentary
- The weird world of the Vagina Institute
- Alternative poll: is requiring a nivell C certificate for all civil servants "the same" as the forced tattooing of Jewish prisoners in Nazi concentration camps?
- thebadPoll - Who should be the next US president?
I will probably fin a WordPress plugin to do this automatically for me from now on.
By the way, thebadPoll has been a generally popular new feature. I wasn't sure whether I should write a post summing up each poll's results, or just let the numbers speak for themselves. For the moment, don't forget that you can access all the previous polls here.
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News from Spain
Quite a big split has taken place in the right-wing Partido Popular, with the more Catholic conservative side (Aznar, Rajoy, Aguirre and Acebes) now claiming victory over the more centrist elements (Gallardon & Piqué). This is good news for the PSOE as a right-wing shift in the PP might convince potential non-voters to come out and back the centre-left. John at Iberian Notes (in between a couple of misogynistic and racist remarks) reckons that it would still be better for Spain if Rajoy won, if only to prevent Zapatero from having two terms. Now that's what I call party loyalty. Mariano Rajoy is a politician who somehow manages to make Zapatero look statesmanlike, confident and wise. Actually, I wouldn't vote for either candidate but on balance, Zapatero hasn't had that bad a time in office.
The national anthem lyrics which I mentioned the other day, after being firmly rejected by the Spanish public, have finally been withdrawn by the Spanish Olympic Committee. They were, as you can see, awful lyrics. But it seems that the 'Viva España!' rallying call (which features twice in the proposed song sheet) was what upset the most people. 'Viva España!' is a phrase which for most people still evokes Franco's fascist regime - the old coot used to say it every other breath. Tourists - this may be why people stared at you and muttered under their breath when you tried to express how much you love Spain.
Actually, this opens up an interesting debate about Spanish nationalism in general. At some point in the future, it'll become more possible to shout 'Viva España!' and not be called a fascist. But for the moment, expressions of nationalist or patriotic pride always seem to hark back to the dictatorship. You would think that the chap who wrote the proposed lyrics for the national anthem, would have known the import of including a couple of 'Viva España!'s... but I doubt that he realised he was saying anything that could cause anyone offence. An unemployed man from La Mancha ('Castilla la Nueva'), I suspect he is in fact pretty cut off from public opinion in the big towns.
My wife has quite a lot of family in Ciudad Real province and while the older generations are lovely, warm and sensible country people, the cousins who are our age, are spectacularly badly informed, racist and nationalist. They even took part in that pathetic anti-Catalan boycott a few years back (and had the temerity to invite Gemma, who lives in Catalonia and is Catalan, to take part). Actually, one of them also intended to have a medieval-themed wedding at which all the guests would have to dress up in silly costumes. I found this even more offensive than the stupid boycott.
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Expats against immigration!
The BBC's got a story on how some expats living in Spain are getting involved in Spanish municipal elections. All EU citizens are eligible to vote - or stand - in council elections. I mentioned last week that I'll be voting for the Green/United Left (aka the communists) as they've done a lot to improve both the look and the feel of Cerdanyola.
Much further south (the traditional home of the British expat), people haven't got so much to be grateful for. Successive administrations from the PP, the PSOE and other parties have been criticised for large-scale corruption, especially in their dealings with land and building permissions.
So some Spaniards and ex-pats have united in a party called 'Progreso y Orden' (Progress and Order). The party's platform is to do away with those problems that ruin life in la Vega Baja of Alicante. Problems like corrupt politicians, excessive land speculation, 'delinquency', drug use and... immigration! Unusual as it may seem, non-Spaniards are involved with a Spanish party which is opposed to immigration. As you might have guessed, I smelled a rat. A big fat racist rat.
So I had a look at Progress and Order's homepage (web geek's observation: probably the worst designed website in existence: I had to use Firefox's 'Page info' dialogue to navigate the site!) (Updated: here's the link to their homepage!). When I eventually managed to find the Spanish language 'About us' page, I found out a lot about the founder of Order and Progress. He's called Fernando Gadea. He's an ex Guardia Civil (not that there's anything wrong with that), an 'intelligence expert', an expert in 'electronic security systems', a former Spanish legionnaire and a former municipal official. He spends quite a lot of time talking about himself (even more than I do in my 'About' section), and seems to be your typical ex-military, ex-Guardia, private detective sort of nice chap.
Unfortunately, he forgot to mention one thing on his new party's site which might be of interest to residents of San Fulgenio, as well as the BBC journalists who missed this little tidbit. When he was a 'concejal' (town councillor), he was there as a listed member of España 2000. Those of you who haven't heard of España 2000 can check out its Wikipedia entry which is both accurate and amusing. Other Nazis in Spain consider them to be something of a joke. A splinter-group of theirs is apparently based in Catalonia, and puts up stickers in Cerdanyola which call for the repatriation of 'non-Spaniards' (which we can assume doesn't include wealthy Brits or Germans: the photos all seem to be of Muslims).
So there you go... not exactly surprising that a party called Order and Progress is a bit dodgy. The BBC should probably have done some better research for their story, as it would have been interesting to read a 'Brits and Germans in far-right Spain pact' headline, but never mind. It's also worth noting that not all Brits in Spain are voting for the local equivalent of the BNP. While many expats see fit to spew invective about the 'Asians' back home, there are plenty of us who didn't leave home because we were sick of seeing brown faces everywhere.
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As has been reported on other blogs, British involvement in Spanish politics doesn't stop at San Fulgencio. Bernie Ecclestone, short-arsed owner of the Formula One franchise, has just announced that there'll be a new Grand Prix in Valencia ciutat. But only if the electorate remember to vote PP in the regional elections, as the local party boss is a chum. What a revolting little episode. I'm boycotting it. But good luck, Lewis, anyway!
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